TIE-F 180: Cheese, Wookiees, and a BGCOM

Battle Information

Game platform: TIE Fighter
Missions: 1
Release date: 2001-11-24
Last updated: 2003-09-10

COL Beef

Average rating: 2.9
Reviews: 9
Bug reports: 0
Times completed: 70
Patches used: None

Golden Spoon 2002: best TIE free mission of 2001

Battle Reviews

COL Phalk Sturm



I was reading the controversy behind this old mission, and it freshened my mind. This is not by far any of the best Beef's contributions, but far from being the worse. The mission in sketchy and crammed, as the CORTs show up and can be a nuisance in a dogfight but nothing impossible at all. It was actually original, as the whole plotline and layout. Manic maneuvering around those Corellian transports is a must because they will try to ram you every time. It's not unbalanced at all and very much an achievable mission. I had some fun with it. The humour is of course an opinion, but I liked it, and the briefings are a bit clogged as the mission goals, but overall acceptable. A challenging mission away from the usual T/D dogfighting.

GN Mark Schueler



This mission ruined a TCBG-wide competition. 16 years later I feel no better about it. It's incredibly overrated, unfunny, and generally not a fun mission at all. How did this win any awards?

CPT Talas



How to fix Primary Mission Global Goals Bug. Set your first global goal. EG 100% of Wookie craft must be destroyed. In the second (unused) goal box before the first. Change "none" to "Always"

HA Striker



I found this mission fun to play; technically good (you will hardly find poor TIE missions these days anyway, except from some newbies) and some humor. Any unjustified ranting or personal attack through mission ratings from angry pilots will be deleted and processed according to the Articles of War. If anyone has a complaint about the judging of the ECR, email the BGCOM who was emailed the exact rating of all missions submitted.

COL RogueWing



I didn't fly this mission, but I am going to rate it as high as I can. Why? If you are going to attack someone's work, then have the decency and courage to use your own words...don't copy off of someone else just because you are upset.

MAJ Mairin Astoris



I'm giving this a 2 because it had no bugs, it wasn't too hard to complete, and the use of CORTs was nice and original. I'm not an experienced mission builder myself, but I appreciate how much work goes into making the things and how hard it is, so well done to Beef on that score. :) On quite another score... I didn't find much humour in the mission, and having flown it some 7 times for a higher score, I began to get quite peeved with it. It was mildly interesting the first time, but it doesn't have much longevity. But I hate Free missions on principle anyway ;)

COL Piett



Sadly, a very mundane and otherwise boring battle. The humour was a welcome change from the majority of missions i've encountered, but they don't make up for rest of the encounter. You get a point for gratuitous use of CORTs, though.

GN Master



Wasent as bad as everyone is saying, i didnt mind it. Sure it was a pain fighting CORT's, but the plot was fairly funny and i didnt find any bugs, so DEAL!!!!

COL Beef



There's no way to say this without sounding pitifully defensive (I wish I could comment without giving my own work a rating), but these are my observations so I'll just say them. First of all, this mission only took me 13.5 game minutes to complete the primary goals. The problem is that we're all used to only beating on X-wings and the like. So when we have to face something that is actually hard and can shoot at us from behind (i.e. CORTs) we don't know how to handle them properly. As for the wait at the beginning. It is less than 2.5 game minutes. Just turn on x4 time and it's a whole 37 seconds of real life. That's not very much time. Besides the wait goes with the plot; the action can't start until the BGCOM is aboard. Humor is all opinion so I can't say anything there. I don't know everything about TIE workshop, but that doesn't mean I didn't do a lot of work too. As for winning the competition: I'm not going to say whether this mission winning 2nd was right or wrong-that wasn't my decision. I'll just do some comparision. Before I say anything else about them, I'll say that the two missions Drake mentioned are very good. I enjoyed them. Drake complained about lack of animated briefing-182's briefing didn't move either. Stop points don't really make much difference. I keep maps basic anyway so the officer will have something to say other than repeating the map. The briefing text boxes cover the whole screen-yes, they do. They need to be that big to fit all the words in them. "What are the mission goals" questions aren't very interesting or original. 2D battle-true. This isn't my best work. Fast mission messages-also true, but that's what the "L" button is for. It pauses the game so you can read the messages you missed. I mentioned the waiting already. "Stupidly balanced?"-well the Colossus missions had T/Ds vs T/Fs. How balanced is that? I honestly think this mission had a more even playing field. Starship orders are wrong?-if they defended themselves and otherwise did what I WANTED them to do, how is that wrong? They didn't have fighter orders. Placement is poor-that's an opinion, I guess. Nothing was painfully far away. Goal sheet clogged-true. I didn't want it that cluttered. I wanted to use something like "100% Wookiee craft must be destroyed" but global goals like that tend to lead to the goals-complete-but-mission-failed bug in TIE so I had to keep the goals separate. Robbed? I can't say since it wasn't my decision. I thought it was a close competition, though this mission isn't my best or perfect. Some differences I noticed between this mission and the ones Drake talks about: The Colossus missions' plots were simply two forces meeting and fighting and were laid out fully in the briefing. This mission had SOME twists and plot developments DURING the battle (whether you thought they were funny or not). This mission had ships coming in and out of the battle with orders other than kill the enemy which COULD be a reason this mission scored 2nd place. If you really think you were robbed, why don't we politely ask the judge for the guidlines he used in making his decision?

Battle Bug Reports

There are currently no open bug reports for this battle.

High Scores

Mission: 101,224 COL Callista

Top Ten

(of available records)

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3 79,221 FA Pickled Yoda 2015-12-11
4 53,814 MAJ Deleted Member 2003-01-29
5 46,132 LC Brandon 2003-08-10
6 18,552 COL Moagim Daar 2009-08-07
7 14,477 COL Azurin Luna 2005-02-23
8 14,374 AD Ranthier Khaen 2003-08-03
9 9,616 GN Abel Malik 2004-09-17
10 8,198 COL Phalk Sturm 2021-02-14

Battle Completion Statistics

This battle has been flown by 68 pilots a total of 70 times.

Title: Cheese, Wookiees, and a BGCOM?
# of Missions: 1
Game Platform: TIE Fighter
Date: October 04, 2001
Author: Major Beef
           CMDR/MAJ Beef/Thunder/Wing X/ISD Challenge
           SS/BS/PCx6/ISMx8/MoT-2rh-6gh/IS-1BW-1BR/CoB/LoAx4/OV-2E   [LNGR]  
           {IWATS-GFX-SM/2-TM}  [T/D Mad Cow]
           }:(:) -moo
     With Assistence From:
	FL/LCM Shadow/Thunder 2-1
	FM/LT Dex D'Alcobia/Thunder 1-2

Required patches
* none

Installation instructions
1] Double click the .EHM file, the EH Battle Launcher will install the battle
2] Check the Misc folder in your TIE95 one for additional material like patches, sounds etc.
3] Press the TIE Fighter button on the EHBL to start the game
4] Create a new pilot and fly the first battle

	Created for the EMPEROR'S HAMMER'S Battle Groups' ECR4 competition.
	The ISD CHALLENGE has been sitting around in orbit of the planet STRALL. The other two teams involved in the war game IMPERIAL STORM II are afraid of our might! While the other teams destroy each other, TASK FORCE DOOM sits by peacefully earning victory points unchallenged. Thus, VICE ADMIRAL ADRENALINE, the Battle Group Commander, doesn't have anything to do. She has decided to come sample some of the cheeses made by a THUNDER SQUADRON pilot.


Major Beef